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msloan

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Hellooooo!
« on: February 08, 2025, 05:37:05 PM »
I came here to learn more and to find some parts for my savage 220 20 gauge shotgun. This was my father's gun and  it was my first gun.  I broke the firing pin and bought a new one in the 80s I put it in myself the gun functions but I'm missing a part or 2.  I recently purchased a savage 220 in 16 gauge also a second gen. )Still not in my hands yet pics to comel)  Here's a bunch of pictures any input on the age or anything else would be appreciated.  I steel wooled this gun and cold-blooded way back then also it's all brown now. I heard there is his a issue with this gun's metal...
























Garnett

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2025, 08:46:01 PM »
Welcome to the forum!  I have never seen the mark on the front left of your frame.  It most likely is an assembly mark.  Years ago, when Mr Callahan, a retired Savage employee, had all the Savage R&D records, I offered to pay him to identify the assembly and inspectors for use in my book, but he declined.  He later gave/sold the records to the Savage museum, who later delivered/sold them to the Buffalo Bill museum in Cody, Wyoming.  They recently advised me that they had no records for the 219/220 single shots.  As to the metal, I have been advised that the early actions were rust blued.  The key word is “rust”.  Later actions were color case hardened, apparently cheaper to do than rust bluing.  If the early “rust” blued guns are later “hot” blued, the normal type used today, they will turn various colors of red or purple.  I believe your gun has just naturally aged.  We look forward to hearing more from you!

msloan

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2025, 08:12:47 AM »
Thanks Garnet for all of that info. I will put up some pictures when I get my 16 gauge...

Cleetus

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2025, 07:40:10 PM »
Ballistol makes two cold “blueing” products. One is black bluing and one is browning product. You have to look very carefully on the labels. Follow their instructions. I ding the OOO equivalent scotchbrite pad will get the bare metal prep you need. Make sure the gun is 100% oil free and use the browning product. It will take to that vintage 220.


Cleetus

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2025, 08:19:18 PM »
Ballistol makes two cold “blueing” products. One is black bluing and one is browning product. You have to look very carefully on the labels. Follow their instructions. Using the OOO equivalent scotchbrite pad will get the bare metal prep you need. Make sure the gun is 100% oil free and use the browning product. It will take to that vintage 220.


msloan

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2025, 11:46:19 AM »
Thanks cleetus, Back in the day i steel woolen this and hit it with some cold blue. All of that now is brownish are you sure I want to use the brown one?  I have watched a lot of videos on bluing, I'm leaning towards Mark Novak's (youtube) technique in a box with steam. Any thoughts would be appreciated...
 Nothing's set in Stone I'm in no hurry to get this done.

Cleetus

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Re: Hellooooo!
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2025, 09:30:42 AM »
The browning product still gives you a classic bluing appearance it is just not the modern AR blacking finish.